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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 3/31/2010 8:51:39 AM
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garsyt
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Interesting Garsy, that they are including fifth graders in that new law. I wonder how that will work. Would existing teachers be grandfathered in?
I'm not sure - I have to do more research.
I would be VERY upset if this means we would have to lose some of our current 5th grade teachers!
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 3/31/2010 9:03:34 AM
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debilyn
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(((Mbee))), I hope today is a better day for you. Praying.
Garsy, I agree that adding 5th grade is a bit strange in that law. I hope your research helps.
Julia, YAY for you and hubby being home!!!!
Our high school graduation was held in the football stadium for a number of years, then moved to the gym. Depending on the size of the graduation class, there were a limited number of tickets per student, then students could be placed on a waiting list to get extra tickets or ask a fellow student. Last year, we were allowed 6 tickets, the year before was only allowed 5.
Local college graduation is outside on the lawn. They reserve a large building on campus for rain issues. Again, with limited tickets depending on graduation class size.
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 3/31/2010 1:24:48 PM
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garsyt
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Garsy, I agree that adding 5th grade is a bit strange in that law. I hope your research helps.
well all that I found doesn't tell me much EXCEPT that this only effects those new teachers and anyone renewing their license and that they have to do regularly now I understand. I'm still trying to figure out the 5th grade thing. Our governor tends to base MOST of his legislation based on Indianapolis area schools, so I'm wondering if more schools in that area start middle school with 5th grade. All it's doing is having those wanting to be teachers taking LESS classroom management and methodology type courses and MORE courses in a specific field.
Basically what most of our teachers do already at least at the middle school and elementary levels. I KNOW our 5th grade teachers share the load - one teaches all the science, another all the social studies and history, and the third all the grammar, vocabulary and spelling. They team teach math with the highest scoring kids always getting the teacher with the highest amount of math education and so on. In fact I think they do pretty much the same thing from 3rd grade on up in our building, especially since we lost our science specialist. Maybe this will force our elementary schools to bring back our science specialists.
But I could also see this raising havoc at some schools in our area where Race to the Top dollars have forced restructuring and teachers are being made to reapply for their jobs. This could mean losing a teacher that over the years has become a great say English teacher at the middle school level - simply because they only have elementary education major with a middle school endorsement.
Blessings,
Garsy
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 3/31/2010 10:59:27 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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Our school district here (in Kansas) classifies fifth grade as secondary in some situations. It's a weird duck!
I would imagine that most elementary teachers are generalists. When I went through my teacher education classes, I had classes in all subjects. The PRAXIS covers all subject areas. Do most 5th grade teachers there hold a K-6 license? Or? Every state does it differently!
There is only one more day before Easter Break. I can do this!!
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/1/2010 7:07:59 AM
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garsyt
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here they hold an Elementary ed degree and many 5th grade teachers are also required to get a middle school endorsement and at least one in our building also has a gifted and talented endorsement.
Today's our last day before a week of Spring Break! I really like how they did it this year! I think it's going to reduce the absenteeism we have been having the week prior to spring break - ESPECIALLY the Friday before. Last year, the Friday before Spring break, Ethan's 4th grade class was half gone!
Our middle school missed out on 4 star status in our state this year by .08 %! .08! Why? Because attendance was down below standards for 3 months in a row.
I'm volunteering today. I really don't like volunteering on April 1st! It's going to be a LONG day!
Garsy
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/1/2010 8:32:29 AM
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momma_bee
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Well, he made it through the test, and said the dr was pleased and told him he was ok.
I need to see it in writing.
Or, hear it later one. I don't know.
Oh, the doctor not giving him a script? Keep in mind the hubby went to the dr for the first time in 7 years, waiting for all the test results and developing a plan is ok. We know he has sugar from a test at work and the dr had to order his OWN test.
I am really hurt because he doesn't seem to care to change. He wants to, but not enough to follow through (yet) - that scares me.
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/1/2010 10:13:53 AM
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I am really hurt because he doesn't seem to care to change. He wants to, but not enough to follow through (yet) - that scares me.
I can understand that. I've seen a couple folks who said they wanted to change, but didn't follow through. Their health suffered for it, too. One told me they were waiting until it got "bad enough." How bad is bad enough? I asked. No answer. I hope PapaBee isn't waiting for "bad enough."
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/1/2010 10:39:15 AM
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momma_bee
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That is my concern. He hadn't eaten yesterday (fast before the test) and we didn't get out until 11:30am. So we went to eat at a place that had an 'all you can eat, soup and salad bar.' He added a fish sandwich. It was an 8" bun with 12" piece of fried fish. He did offer me half (I don't eat fried foods that much) but kept raving about how much was there and what a good deal it was and comparing it to the fish sandwiches he'd order at work.
And he was right - but that doesn't mean he should be eating it. And, he didn't know it was that big and it wouldn't keep and he was hungry but I would have liked him to acknowledge that his actions were an exception, but couldn't continue.
KWIM?
This coming from the girl who has lost 8 pounds and is going out for a hamburger at lunch time and NOT TELLING so we can have grilled burgers this weekend. A burger is ok, it is 3 burgers and no veggies that is bad.
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/1/2010 11:17:27 AM
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MBee, that is hard to watch. Change is hard too. Hopefully the doctor can say what needs to be said to get through to your hubby.
I don't like to go to all-you-can eat places with hubby that much because he eats too much. I do too to a certain extent. And it is hard to teach the kids good eating habits when hubby doesn't think veggies at meals are important.
N came home from youth group with a red mark on his face; some boys were throwing balls at him when he was getting a ball that had gone over the fence (they were playing dodge ball). He got hit in the face. The boys involved have a history of causing trouble in youth group, so I emailed the (new) youth pastor and the associate pastor who knows of the previous problems. The associate pastor emailed me back saying that wouldn't be allowed and the leaders would discuss this. So they are saying the right thing; hopefully they will do the right thing also.
Dee
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/1/2010 11:33:32 AM
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garsyt
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Had to come home from school briefly! Got a phone call from my neighbors daughter. She lives over in Ohio about an hour and a half away and she couldn't get a hold of her dad this morning and since he's been sick she was worried about him because he wasn't answering his cell or his home phone. So she wanted me to check on him. He's fine - He had just turned off the cell phone and had been outside puttering around in his garden and hadn't heard his home phone ringing!
BUT I slipped going over to his house so I'm washing out the crop pants I was wearing before I head back to school and letting the dogs out for a while.
Blessings,
Garsy
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/1/2010 11:52:15 AM
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don't like to go to all-you-can eat places with hubby that much because he eats too much. I do too to a certain extent. And it is hard to teach the kids good eating habits when hubby doesn't think veggies at meals are important.
Us too. We try to stay away as much as possible.
MBee, I'm sorry for your troubles. I have family members who are a lot like your hubby, myself included. I believe that attitudes like that are passed down through families and it's hard to break the cycle. Not like a curse of anything like that.
A few districts around here consider 5th grade Jr Hi.
Our jr hi holds it's graduation at the high school and the high schools hold their ceremonies at a few different very large locations, like the mega church in our area.
Anyone ever wonder why the kids still get Good Friday off?
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/1/2010 12:42:41 PM
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thisistheday
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Yes, I think about that sometimes Deb. Although Good Friday is a teacher work day here, I believe. Nope, I'm wrong. The calendar just says Good Friday--no school. So its not a work day.
I've never heard of 5th grade being considered middle school/junior high. I'm not surprised though.
Here, in Kansas, I believe you get a K-9 certificate. So our high school freshman English teacher started out teaching kindergarten. She is working on getting her secondary certificate I was told by one of my kids. One of the high school math teachers moved down to teaching at the middle school because he was certified k-9.
Dee
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/1/2010 7:30:33 PM
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Kath
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Anyone ever wonder why the kids still get Good Friday off?
because if it wasn't everyone, teachers, parents, administration would revolt.
Parents would call kids out of school, office staff and teachers would call in sick. So they just give it off.
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/1/2010 8:11:52 PM
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Our kids have to go tomorrow, it's a makeup day and we missed quite a bit this winter.
Out of curiosity, am I the only person that thinks my kids actually eat healthier eating the school lunch than what I would be able to send them (most likely a sandwich and chips LOL) every day? Maybe it's just our school's menu but I honestly don't have a problem with it.
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/2/2010 12:13:29 AM
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ORIGINAL: thisistheday
Here, in Kansas, I believe you get a K-9 certificate. So our high school freshman English teacher started out teaching kindergarten. She is working on getting her secondary certificate I was told by one of my kids. One of the high school math teachers moved down to teaching at the middle school because he was certified k-9.
Dee
Dee--in the state of Kansas, teachers either license as a K-6 "generalist" (like me) or they license as a 7-12 teacher in a specific area (math, English, Social Studies, etc). Special education endorsements are pre-K through 12th grade. A high school math teacher could move down to a middle school teaching position because his or her license is 7-12.
As for Good Friday, we are off here. We had to attend inservice meetings on our own time (before or after school hours) in order to receive the release time to have both Friday and Monday off.
As for school lunches, I tend to believe they are fairly balanced. The problem seems to be the serving sizes (at least from some of the meals I have seen at my school)!!
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/2/2010 12:31:24 AM
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daughter_of_faith
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I started the April PPS Chat
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RE: March PPS Chat: Waiting for Spring! - 4/2/2010 12:35:04 AM
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Daughter_of_faith, thanks for correcting me. I knew that at one time too, because my hubby had a teaching certificate once upon a time. Actually it seemed like there used to be some overlap on the licensing grade-wise, has that changed? I got confused because the elementary ed teacher I know ended up teaching freshman English. How does that work? One of my kids said she was working on her secondary certification/license. And another teacher at the HS who taught Algebra moved down to the middle school because he was not licensed for the higher grades? I don't know too much about the math teacher, but I know the now English teacher and know she was an elementary teacher previously.
School lunches, that would depend on the day. Every Wednesday here they have breaded processed meat with mashed potatoes and gravy, so I don't consider that a particularly healthy day. When my kids pack a lunch I usually make them take a fruit or a veggie. They don't have chips in a sack lunch too often. But it is hard packing a nutritious lunch day after day as you need some variety. So I guess it depends a lot on what they choose to eat from their school lunch.
Dee
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